Animated Lion 3D Model 14. (e.g. Im convinced now that when I would reactivate my Ts account I will just have a bit less sales here and get some sales over there, could be wrong but I don't care, 60% cut is ridicules and on top of that price guarantee is just total madness. This is the Tesla Model 3. Sales dropped to almost nothing. I will very much want to peruse. The duality of 3D printing/CGmodels is a very complex marriage. Well, it was more than one year ago that I last intervened on this thread. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. I don't think trying to sit down with one ass on more then one chair at the same time is a good business. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. Been over 17 years with TS. I started uploading on a few sites and TS was one of them and I can tell you now that that place is a mess. It sells almost nothing, except, perhaps, with very low prices. Build your own Brand with your own criteria and goals. If that is the case then better not to become exclusive! Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. It doesn't matter if the printing industry is growing fast. just 2 years ago still existed. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. (2034950) 3D Change Method.
A client would normally ALWAYS choose a cheaper price, that's a law of nature. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. I do feel cg trader gives the artists a better price and the share is fair . - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way. I ran my test with "characters" and displayed 128 models on one page. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. So that is why sites like Amazon are making a fortune. The items from CG and TS do not appear very far from each other in Google. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. For this, it is certainly the most pleasant place to sell models I know right now. Like time spent on searching models or ability to get profesional support 24/7. Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. Fact is and I have been saying it for years is that there is a super limited amount of people who care about 3D. This market is changing rapidly and Ts is not adapting to the evolution of connectedness within the global CG community. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. Also, the problem comes from the sellers, not the site designers, for a large part. ! and it's not a check-out, it's simply a gift. Like when something breaks that is no longer in production like your favorite mug or something. Don't forget those young people are going to shape the future of this market and if we want to have a flourishing market then we need lots of well trained people in it. Large studios with "turbosquid" collaborate very limitedly. Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. Chocofur.com6. Another thing that makes CGT better than TS is the friendships that one is able to make within the artist community. When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. So, Ts will probably have a few thousand lawsuits to issue in following months if they like. Bottom line is if people are used to buying from TS they won't buy here because they need to use a different system so let's create our own client base. Chat with Support 24/7 clients will come where is a big diversificated data base of quality models (not only printable models) and artists will come where paying clients are. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" I guess it is because of the youth of the site, which has not yet reached its maturity. The clients like to waste money for a more expensive model at TSquid, perhaps knowing that the artist will get shafted with a measly 40% return, and that's that. I am getting more sales on Cgtrader than TS though :P and CGtrader is easier to use. Same for me, here. I like this site more, because, firstly, it has a much more pleasant and understandable interface, gives a higher percentage of the sale (on a TS, it looks more like a tip if you are not a member of their club), and generally it works more stable. I don't think it's possible to have WORKING site with both 3d printing and classic models. its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. They do not deserve that I fed them 60% I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. I would expect those kinds of charges from a real art gallery with real world space that could sell my work for 10,000 a pop, not some virtual space that sells my work for 50 bucks. In previous post the buyer mentioned he don't get reputation points for buying models? These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. Better for who? It is always very reassuring to know that our opinions are taken into account. In my country you have to be adult to do bussines and legal stuff. A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] I will leave the items here to see if cg trader does manage to change things around over the next 12 months and if not will simply sell them on turbosquid. Be very wary when the artist is from India or other similar countries. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. Sketchfab.com-------------------------------. still turbosquid has the most paying clients. I think there needs to be a more valued motivation ($) in order to get people rank in great numbers consistently. It's true. Check my store https://apkvisa.com/dungeon-quest-mod-apk/, Very motivating and supportive too.Hope you keep on sharing a greater amount of your ideas. No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. It's the artist that need to make a stand and simply take the short term loss from less traffic and exposure and join the marketplace that respects the artists. B: CGTrader needs to do SOMETHING about all the damn undercutters. I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. The system would make a seller more responsible and promote a culture of diversification (in theory). But i think its not only the responsability of cgtrader to turn this around. Cgtrader have more favorable royalty rates, compared to TurboSquid. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. for someone that is a little more unique. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. I have it is about 5%. If I compare him with the founder of Ts, then it becomes clear to me we have a completely different relationship. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. I will search on TS and when found right model I will maybe look at cgtrader if there is that same model for cheaper. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. There are currently no models in your cart. ,,Checkmate,, from TS was actually invented by Jonathan Lloyd, the person who ruined Pixel SQUID :). They have more traffic so i'm told. I'm done with them. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. So good luck "shopping elsewhere" dear customer, this is turning into a monopoly slaughterhouse and a 3D warzone. So my own experience on sales is of little value. They had shoddy products but they created the illusion of having something amazing and that was better than a PC. Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . The sellers for which, CGtrader liked can help for this resource. TS has bather page rank, when someone searches the net it will come on top, simple because it is an older website. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. Please let us know if you have any feedback. I was thinking of ok if the ts is shit why not using other marketplace with the cgt specially if both accept selling in other marketplace, You have zero 3D models uploaded here. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. From point of buyer who wants to buy a classic 3D model (cg) there is no way I will start searching on cgtrader. So the staff there tries to work Payment Method And also because of the complete isolation of the seller-buyer. Chat with Support 24/7 Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? https://www.fiverr.com/pixel512/create-a-3d-model-shipping-container However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. 2. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. $300 + (280) $200 to $300 (315) $100 to . If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. (just playing with ideas here)
Turbosquid has a bot spying cgtrader prices. Your account is not in CGtrader and I can't see your models, and judging by the link in your comment you are just a spammer. Site issues? By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. Also you need to think about the advantage of not having to worry about shipping costs etc with digital art. I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). ;), My thoughts exactly.. 3d Printing could be very profitable (for CG Trader, and the modelers) He bought a cheap product (with a fake account) and post a bad rating. CG Trader. If you have any questions about these.
Some while ago someone (if he is real, can't even verify that) bought my snakebot model on Ts and he posted a nice comment. This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. And precisely here is where I think resides the greater problem. [google14]url:http://www.google.com. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. What would be your opinion? However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). Here it is quite seamless and elegant. Cubebrush. - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. In CGtrader you can accumulate many until you set up payment agreement. Just uploading on turbosquid is a pain in the butt. Welcome to Eduvance Youtube Channel.Technology Leadership Program lecture series focuses on imparting knowledge to school students about new technologies lik. This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients.
But they must realise that attracting more buyers only through more aggresive marketing is not enough. On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. [http://www.google.com google5 ] CGtrader delivers the best basic structure to bring fort this new and healthy next gen market place. Got my model (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/cabinet/handles-vol-01-pbr) Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. I was thinking about searching for specific 3d models through a site like Google, not generic visitation standing of a whole site, which in itself doesn't tell anything about what clients look for. I think CGTrader just has to advertise itself more.. everything else will fall into place.. CG traders designer rank rep points.
On the contrary, comparing 2013 to 2014 for the exact same period (January to August) our sales INCREASED in a 45%. But they can still contact the artist for fixing issues directly here on CGTrader.
I'm planing to start new discussion on this topic in near future, so i won't go into details here, i'll just ask did anybody tried to enter same keywords in TS and CGT search field? In this case a collaborative action could be established to make the product more attractive. . Difference in quality of search results is shockingly vast in favor of TS. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. As long as CGtrader and Marius keep leading the inclusive marketplaces with respect for the Artists and their own branding, we at NoneCG will continue to support CGtrader and Marius indefinitely, no extra shiny coins needed for us. There is other sellers that don't have any problem doing the same:
Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? High hopes for Cgtrader. On other hand I could also think its just some clients that do not care about the price difference, they just prefer using the Ts account. They bring answers to your problems or requests quite fast and in a very convivial way. Machines have already replaced people making their jobs irrelevant in many fields already more and more customer service jobs have become automated, many store sales positions now are not needed because so much is being done online, the tolls on the highways now only use fast track or you get a letter in the mail telling you to pay it because there is no one in the booth anymore so you can't pay it on the road. Of course if you have a PC with quad processors over 16 GB of ram things will be different but be warned students and low end users. Gumroad. Many do not search the net, they go directly to TS and search there for models. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. I was 2 times victim of credit card fraud on Ts, never happened on CGt so far. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. Next we would have the sales/customers feedback factor coming in to sort out the stores ranking. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. CGTrader will have to do so at some point, or people in search of quality models will simply avoid it. i think they both have there place . Just my opinion, but look at homepage. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. I think the CGT does an amazing job of bringing people together! Having said that creating models of that high end quality is quite the burden on 3D modelers who just do it as a hobby or work 3D part time so a lot of artists are moving away from TS because they can't sell their regular models on there anymore. 2. At the time my CGt account was not performing so well and it enforced that belief (it was probably due to longer presence and better position on Ts and new on CGt). In my understanding, for CG models, there are three main trends : large public with various expectations and low budget (roughly, poser people) ; professionals needing a good quality model quick and ready to pay for that (roughly, TS buyers), programmers wanting to create video games in search of game ready assets. I want to say the following. It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? video services, 3D viewers, social media , crowd funding platforms, etc.) I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. - Limiting, perhaps, the number of objects that can be uploaded in a row, to avoid having the front page confiscated by a single seller when ticking the "newest" filter. Female 3D models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. If I am searching for a 3D model, I am not interested in 3D printing services, and vice versa. Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. The biggest problem with TS is that it is a pyramid scheme if you have a diamond account you have a good chance of selling models but at the low levels you have no chance. I'm afraid the end of Ts is near and nothing can stop it, maybe the best they can do is raise royalty's to 80% for all sellers, but then again if they don't change the censorship policy's they are applying right now then it will probably not be enough to stop the downfall in the long run. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations.
In order to post an answer, you need to sign in. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. But hey thats your call, That's sad, but true. although, the 3d printing industry is growing rapidly :D. I have to agree. I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. [a=http://www.google.com] google6[/a] Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. Let's give some time to time. The fact that you can upload models immediately rather than waiting 3 months for them to get reviewed by some random people that won't have the time + the website design and the community inside CGTrader. So it was sorted in your favor afterall? (I'm aware this involves many aspects)
3D Model characters people woman This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character It has been sculpted and optimized for animation and game engines with a clean topology. Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. They're doing competitions, and that attracts artists, at least. Noise Treshold: Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. Ps. Without checkmate Turbosquid would have gone out of business. Yes indeed! Buyers tend to look for things based on the category and budget and like to be able to put two products side by side to compare them and get a better understanding of why one is better than the other or which product is more suitable for them as an individual. That takes longer time. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). but outside of the fact cgtrader is 95% designers and 5% customers its way better and easier to use more professional looking and feeling. Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. Thanks iterateCGI, from the start we thought it will be best to expose the issues publicly, so other cg 3D sellers can see for themselves what they are exposed to when dealing with Turbosquid. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). And it offers a more strategic dimension. Rigged 3D Models | CGTrader 3D Models Buy or download free Rigged 3D Models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. But I will look there only because I know what is cgtrader and how it works. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. If you look around on the net on all the various forums everyone always mentions Turbosquid be it positively or negatively. A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. My friend didn't get any support. We all witness how bad it is for healthy competition and progress. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time:
Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. I can't imagine that competing sellers would go for such things as you described, but who knows, there are plenty nuts all around :]. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. The same goes for student projects. If I run the same test on Turbosquid or The3DStudio, I get almost exclusively original characters. The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects